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:Community was where I thought PCs belonged, Information for the NPCs. --[[User:Krator|Krator]] 17:32, 12 Apr 2006 (GMT)
:Community was where I thought PCs belonged, Information for the NPCs. --[[User:Krator|Krator]] 17:32, 12 Apr 2006 (GMT)


=== Double Categorizing ===
== Double Categorizing ==


An even more tedious task than the Plural forms would be removing pages with double categories when not appropiate. For example, the page PCs:John_Doe might both be in PCs, Kurathene PCs, Julaspium PCs, and Players. This should be removed, and replaced with only "Julaspium PCs" - Julaspium PCs is a subcategory of Kurathene PCs, which is a subcategory of PCs, which is a subcategory of players.. etc. No need to have every category on the page, only confusing.
An even more tedious task than the Plural forms would be removing pages with double categories when not appropiate. For example, the page PCs:John_Doe might both be in PCs, Kurathene PCs, Julaspium PCs, and Players. This should be removed, and replaced with only "Julaspium PCs" - Julaspium PCs is a subcategory of Kurathene PCs, which is a subcategory of PCs, which is a subcategory of players.. etc. No need to have every category on the page, only confusing.
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This won't be something that can be done in a few hours, because these pages are hard to track. If you come across such a page, please edit out the double categories.
This won't be something that can be done in a few hours, because these pages are hard to track. If you come across such a page, please edit out the double categories.
--[[User:Krator|Krator]] 17:32, 12 Apr 2006 (GMT)
--[[User:Krator|Krator]] 17:32, 12 Apr 2006 (GMT)
== Categorizing Spells ==
Each of the spell casting classes has their own page that lists a brief description of the class and the respective levels of spells (i.e. Level-0, Level-1, etc).  Then each of those pages lists the spells for that particular level.  As a result, we have quite a few uncategorized pages.
There are two possible answers if we wish to categorize these pages.  First, we could simply dump all of them into [[:Category:Magic]] -- but this would cause a bit of a mess, I think.  What I think is the better option is to make the page [[Magic:Bard Spells]] into a category -- [[:Category:Bard Spells]] -- that is a subcategory of Magic instead of a stand-alone page, then assign each level to that category.  I've done this with the Bard spells, but am curious what everyone else thinks.
Of course, the ramifications are that the main spell template would need edited to link to the categories for each class instead of the individual pages.
--[[User:Buddha|Buddha]] 07:05, 26 October 2006 (PDT)
:Bumping an old idea here, but I do think this would be beneficial. We have so many different pages for lists of spells that don't match up, since they all require manual editing to update. Doing spells this way (categorized per the Bard spells example) means all links get updated when the source changes, and it is much easier to set up those links, as well as check things like spell level and classes that can cast it, since it is listed by the categories it belongs to.
:Unfortunately it will be quite a bit of work. We will still need the "Spell List" category too (same as the current [[Magic:Spell_List]] one here, but using the revised ones) that they all belong to, so people can have the whole list, but that is easy enough. I'm all for the change, but it is a major conversion project. If anyone is ambitious, all the class spell list pages have had the "Candidate For Deletion" notice on them because of this for years now. Great long term project for everyone to work on.
:''*edits*'' This could also be used to re-do psionic powers the same way, though that really should be its own topic
:--[[User:Gorgon|Gorgon]] 01:08, 7 June 2013 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 05:08, 7 June 2013

Organizing categories

Organizing categories like this brings up some more possible projects.

Plural forms

For consistency, many categories should be in plural form, whereas their current form is singular. Player, Deity, and Race are examples of this, and should probably be changed to Players, Deities, and Races. This will be tedious to implement, but useful in the long run. --Xenophile 16:21, 12 Apr 2006 (GMT)

PCs and NPCs pages

I stuck these as subcateogies of history for the moment, but I don't really think they belong there. I just can't decide where they make the most sense, could use your input. --Xenophile 16:21, 12 Apr 2006 (GMT)

Community was where I thought PCs belonged, Information for the NPCs. --Krator 17:32, 12 Apr 2006 (GMT)

Double Categorizing

An even more tedious task than the Plural forms would be removing pages with double categories when not appropiate. For example, the page PCs:John_Doe might both be in PCs, Kurathene PCs, Julaspium PCs, and Players. This should be removed, and replaced with only "Julaspium PCs" - Julaspium PCs is a subcategory of Kurathene PCs, which is a subcategory of PCs, which is a subcategory of players.. etc. No need to have every category on the page, only confusing.

Some categories this applies to now are, for example, the PCs, (Both PCs and (Place) PCs) the Races (Both Races and Custom Races), the elven languages (both language and elven language), and some feats. (such as Feats and General Feats)

This won't be something that can be done in a few hours, because these pages are hard to track. If you come across such a page, please edit out the double categories. --Krator 17:32, 12 Apr 2006 (GMT)

Categorizing Spells

Each of the spell casting classes has their own page that lists a brief description of the class and the respective levels of spells (i.e. Level-0, Level-1, etc). Then each of those pages lists the spells for that particular level. As a result, we have quite a few uncategorized pages.

There are two possible answers if we wish to categorize these pages. First, we could simply dump all of them into Category:Magic -- but this would cause a bit of a mess, I think. What I think is the better option is to make the page Magic:Bard Spells into a category -- Category:Bard Spells -- that is a subcategory of Magic instead of a stand-alone page, then assign each level to that category. I've done this with the Bard spells, but am curious what everyone else thinks.

Of course, the ramifications are that the main spell template would need edited to link to the categories for each class instead of the individual pages.

--Buddha 07:05, 26 October 2006 (PDT)

Bumping an old idea here, but I do think this would be beneficial. We have so many different pages for lists of spells that don't match up, since they all require manual editing to update. Doing spells this way (categorized per the Bard spells example) means all links get updated when the source changes, and it is much easier to set up those links, as well as check things like spell level and classes that can cast it, since it is listed by the categories it belongs to.
Unfortunately it will be quite a bit of work. We will still need the "Spell List" category too (same as the current Magic:Spell_List one here, but using the revised ones) that they all belong to, so people can have the whole list, but that is easy enough. I'm all for the change, but it is a major conversion project. If anyone is ambitious, all the class spell list pages have had the "Candidate For Deletion" notice on them because of this for years now. Great long term project for everyone to work on.
*edits* This could also be used to re-do psionic powers the same way, though that really should be its own topic
--Gorgon 01:08, 7 June 2013 (EDT)